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Re: NBA Elite 11 Gameplay Video (Operation Sports)

Postby ThaLiveKing on Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:21 pm

The 4th Video is Miami @ Orlando
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Re: NBA Elite 11 Gameplay Video (Operation Sports)

Postby Patr1ck on Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:32 pm

Why would they do an off screen capture when the first two were on screen?
Good to see how he has to control the receiver of they alleyoop in order to complete it. At least I think he does from the icon changing and the controller noises while the ball is in air.
Looks like the Clippers changed the color of their key.

I agree about the spin move, it just pushes the defender backwards.

Remember, Jon. They have the defensive slide move so if someone spins in the post, the defense can quickly use the slide if they guess wrong.
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Re: NBA Elite 11 Gameplay Video (Operation Sports)

Postby Arcane on Sun Sep 05, 2010 12:54 pm

The Clippers did rebrand and their colours are slightly modified to go with their new logo's and uniforms
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Re: NBA Elite 11 Gameplay Video (Operation Sports)

Postby HisGreatness on Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:51 pm

lol just how did the post up moves of okafor turn into a dunk and still it is repetitive by the time you will use bigmans like him and some others :(
also this years blocking animations is poor because it is obviously dragged when it happens,and it is repetitive
the atmosphere is quite good
but the player models are like mongoloid stick in the legs just like the thin point guard., it is like nba live09 also blake griffins running movement also like when his penis got heavy and didnt urinate for long time of period
also the commentators didnt discuss about the key plays of the game and also they didnt discuss what will be the teams situations(the commentators are far away from live10)
the alleyoop is bad just like a blink of an eye and the fadeaway jumpshot is bad too
the dribbling moves are quite excellent
the crowds are bit more reactive than ever
also the skin texture is black just like ariza a coal maded man

The overall is between poor and average :(
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Re: NBA Elite 11 Gameplay Video (Operation Sports)

Postby Axel The Great on Sun Sep 05, 2010 1:54 pm

HisGreatness wrote:it is like nba live09 also blake griffins running movement also like when his penis got heavy and didnt urinate for long time of period

WTF? :?:
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Re: NBA Elite 11 Gameplay Video (Operation Sports)

Postby rizzlekayandretti on Sun Sep 05, 2010 2:01 pm

the latest video was sic as hell i mean omg im sold on gameplay looks very fluid not glitchy like the last couple of nba live games especially the reactions to bumps,dunk ons, and contact after a shot im glad i reserved this :applaud:
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Re: NBA Elite 11 Gameplay Video (Operation Sports)

Postby wabenne on Sun Sep 05, 2010 3:38 pm

in my opinion and i'm just being honest after seeing that video and then seeing some of the negative comments that are trying to write the game off oh they have to be 2k fans. Because I'm neutral and up until this point I felt 2k had Elite on every level that video changed things AT this point I give 2k that they have Jordan, more depth (meaning things to do in there overall game) and player models....But as far as gameplay man come on that game looks fluid, there is much more spacing in Elite amongst the players then in 2k it looks crowded, Elite looks more realistic as far as gameplay, and please believe that the dribbling looks awesome I mean that has to be the most realistic dribbling in a game thus far. Gameplay and dribbling I give that to Elite so far just from the videos that both Elite and 2k have out...If we be honest in both 2k vids and Elite vids we have seen negatives and positives but neither game looks terrible in fact both games look promising I'll simply give it to 2k now just because of my love for Jordan and the old school players that you will be able to play with.....but to hate on Elite because your preference is 2k or vice versa is just unrealistic the games are looking great
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Re: NBA Elite 11 Gameplay Video (Operation Sports)

Postby HisGreatness on Sun Sep 05, 2010 4:32 pm

it is like being you says that your a big fan of Elite coz of the meaningful words that they explain in every diary.
also its so obvious that there game this year is poor compare last years live 10 because the only thing they improve is controls not movement also the game mode like becoming legendary as youve seen from there visuals yes there court is way better than live10 and the crowds but the actions and movement is fluid but the way they moved is unnatural and dragged and as I said before the blocking animation is dragged as you can see how the animation is being excuted not real time physics see for your self

BTW for the guys who think I am a hater I am not a bigfan both videogames., I am just expressing my opinions how both companies making there on way on producing qualities and making the fans and gamer interested about there games
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Re: NBA Elite 11 Gameplay Video (Operation Sports)

Postby Murat on Sun Sep 05, 2010 4:58 pm

There is a fastbreak that it's spent by Paul. He slowed the tempo. Real-life: He showes us who is the boss with his lay-ups.
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Re: NBA Elite 11 Gameplay Video (Operation Sports)

Postby mp3 on Sun Sep 05, 2010 5:29 pm

I think this video is the best yet simply because of the camera angle for me but iam still concerned about the lack AI player movement and it seems like the cpu recognizes where the player with the ball is and gets out the way for an isolation play.

And for the record of being a Elite hater/2k homer ive bought every nba live since 1995 up until 2007 when i started playing both but the last 2 years ive just rented nba live and bought 2k with nba live 10 being playable but 2k again been more in depth at everything.

And what was going on with Danilo Gallinari's profile picture looking like a Chinese guy in nba live 10 ??
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Re: NBA Elite 11 Gameplay Video (Operation Sports)

Postby The X on Sun Sep 05, 2010 6:36 pm

Just like IRL, it appears having a quick guard who can penetrate to the hoop will be a great asset. I haven't seen many blocked shots, but I hope they will be able to help counteract that (Y)
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Re: NBA Elite 11 Gameplay Video (Operation Sports)

Postby HyP82 on Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:32 pm

User vs user looks ok. I truly enjoyed playing online last year. This will probably the case this year. I was expecting an improvement of the AI when we play against the cpu. But what I have seen in the second video make me wonder. I hoped the AI would have been smarter, moved the ball more, more team-work.
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Re: NBA Elite 11 Gameplay Video (Operation Sports)

Postby SHAFT23 on Sun Sep 05, 2010 9:40 pm

This video had the best view, but was the worst one so far........

here is my breakdown of likes and dislikes:

- players ofcourse are poorly designed and look very generic in all videos and also in thisone. it was captured on a CAM, but still i thought the same with other videos and live 10

- speed of the game is too high and guys are skating....slider issue or not it should not be like that especially if it's a promotional video.

- i liked the spinmove, eventhough 3 guys had no chance of stopping it. it looked good, but other games have had that for years along with the pro hop tha tlooks horrible in ELite 11.

- i hate the fact that PG's start to back up against defenders whenever they slow down .........dribbling looks nice other than that.

- a lot of offensive moves, layups and dunks look repetitive and some look downright stupid. They aren't fluid or just happen too often.

- defense seems to be difficult on the perimeter if guys want to take advantage they can. One second you are bodying up, the next second the guy is wide open for a jumper or a jam and you are still standing there.

- whatever they said about the alley oops being more fluid and the guys looking to get the ball with their hands etc. etc obvious ly didn;t work, cause guys are still teleporting to the ball and it looks bad. I know Andrew is optimistic, cause guys aren't throwing it to teh 3 point line or out of bounds etc, but that was a flaw of live 10 and that shouldn;t be the case in teh first place. you gotta compare these alley ooops to good alley oops like the ones in other games like 2k and then say that they are still good.
Hell the alley oops in live 2004 and 2005 were better looking.

- David West acted like he was attacked by a pack of killer bees when Blake Griffin dunked the first alley oop on him. Looks funny, but it was awkward. i didn;t dislike it that much, though.

- rebounding doesn't look good all the time and is still predetermined by who presses the button first eventhough he is out of position. @4:47 mark 2 Clippers couldn;t grab a rebound , but Okafor grabbed it easily.

All in all it isn't a step up from live 10.....at least not enough. They didn't include NBA JAM for nothing to boost sales.

The guys who like these videos are extremely optimistic and still in love with nba live on the previous gen consoles. I have said before if you are still playing nba live 2006, then you will love These videos, but if you have been playing Nba live 9/10 and nba 2k9 and nba 2k10.........then you will think these videos are a joke.
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Re: NBA Elite 11 Gameplay Video (Operation Sports)

Postby planbzimp on Sun Sep 05, 2010 11:58 pm

Just watched the third video and would like to share some of my thoughts on Elite 11.

I'll start with the positives. The variety of dribbling moves were great. I especially like the behind the back crossover dribble animation and spin to layup animation. The animations for moving out of post up to face up was also nice to see. It was fresh to listen to a new team of commentators after years of Steve Kerr and Marv Albert.

Unfortunately that's about all the positives I could come up with based on the watching the movements in the game. One of the things that bug me the most was passing the rock. These guys are NBA players, but from gameplay the passes look like their beginner basketballers. Many times the ball floats slowly to the receiving player and it makes me wonder why that pass wasn't intercepted or deflected. Another thing that I found annoying was how players all seemed to move generically. I couldn't tell the difference between Okafor and David West. In terms of the AI, there was a lot of standing around. The offball players look abit too relaxed and don't look ready to receive the ball.

With all the negatives I've just mentioned, it's not surprising that these things happened. After all the focus for Elite 11 was on 'skill-base' where players who best know the controls are going to win the game. So it is important that we don't judge Elite 11 based on how it looks but rather how it feels. We won't be able to justly critique the game until we have a chance to test whether 'Only the Skilled Survives' slogan is true when the demo releases sometime in September.
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Re: NBA Elite 11 Gameplay Video (Operation Sports)

Postby ThaLiveKing on Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:52 am

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The speed of the game is too fast
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Re: NBA Elite 11 Gameplay Video (Operation Sports)

Postby Axel The Great on Mon Sep 06, 2010 4:00 am

Good things: It finally shows players checking in/out. Also, deflections look okay imo. Saw some post moves. 1:37 looked like a pretty good block, finally players just don't jump with a hand up for blocks anymore. Atmosphere is still there too.

Bad things: Way too many dunks, at around 1:01, Dwyane Wade literally just pushed Pietrus back on a dunk. Also, I kinda don't like the dribbling moves, and off-ball players slide way too much. There aren't any shooting fouls, despite there being one or two clear ones. Blocking looks way too easy.

Overall, this is just average, but I need to try the game out myself to really decide whether it's good or not.
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Re: NBA Elite 11 Gameplay Video (Operation Sports)

Postby ThaLiveKing on Mon Sep 06, 2010 6:10 am

Just remember the Sliders in NBA Live!!! Those usually make the difference in the calls and overall gameplay.
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Re: NBA Elite 11 Gameplay Video (Operation Sports)

Postby SHAFT23 on Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:09 am

2nd video looks a lot more fun, but not for a simulation guy. Guys doing repetitive dunks and gamespeed is too fast.

there were a couple of collisions:

carter collision was very nicely done...........then the wade collision was too unrealistic.

I think they put the gamepeed so fast, casue the movement animations like lay ups, dunks and jumpers are fast too. If you put the gamespeed too low it would make them speed up at the moment of doing a dunk.

graphics and gameplay animations just isn't their trong point anymore. I don;t know where it went so wrong.
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Re: NBA Elite 11 Gameplay Video (Operation Sports)

Postby ThaLiveKing on Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:01 am

I'm watching some old school Pacers Vs Bulls Games Right Now. . .I think EA should consider taking fundamental basketball moves from old school basketball games and put it in their game. Especially the passing. and perimetre game, put backs off the glass, fast breaks, and sound effects. I think those moves will look better with their PLAYER MODELS, since they kind of resemble "Old School" NBA IMO. I'm not saying make the game RETRO, but they should consider taking some basic stuff from OLD old games.

Look how simple the moves look and how crazy the "Gameplay" could be if they did this. Especially with Total Control and playoff atmosphere, OVERALL, they could really turn this game around. . I think. What do y'all think?
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Re: NBA Elite 11 Gameplay Video (Operation Sports)

Postby rizzlekayandretti on Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:00 am

the best vid so far was the magic vs heat they displayed true physics executed play styles showed good on ball defense i really was impressed by this 1 i like the overall fluidness of the game no more canned animations everything is organic and based on size an weight like real basketball should be good job ea :applaud:
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Re: NBA Elite 11 Gameplay Video (Operation Sports)

Postby Andrew on Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:07 am

Good to see a few more collisions taking place, such as Vince Carter's dunk attempt that was impeded by the contact. In previous years that would've been an automatic two with him clipping past the defender so with proper positioning and a big body, we'll hopefully be able to do more defensively in the paint this year. Dunking sliders might have to come down a little for sim players though.

The removal of canned animations doesn't always make the game the most aesthetically pleasing but hopefully this will be offset by more responsive controls, less clunky-feeling player movement and other benefits made possibly by the real time physics. I wouldn't deem what's in the game this year horrible looking (as I've said before, words like horrible, terrible and awful are strong words and I think they're thrown around too easily) but there's a need for polish that will hopefully come next year. If the game plays well with the new physics and looks OK - for the most part - then I think that's an acceptable first step and hopefully will be built upon next year so that it's visually pleasing as well. Here's hoping the demo supports that theory.

Nice to see some substitutions taking place, seems like secondary positions are still being taken into account. Hopefully we'll still see players already on the floor sliding over to other positions to accommodate subs, as we did in NBA Live 10. Good to see a couple of fouls in that video too and again, I think showing the broadcast camera angle is for the best.
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Re: NBA Elite 11 Gameplay Video (Operation Sports)

Postby wabenne on Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:47 am

To be honest I think its a lot of people giving negative views on the game simply because they don't like Elite or vice versa on the 2k video's they don't like 2k. Because after watching 2k vids and elite vids both games are looking promising.......Promising I said not Perfect. Both 2k and Elite have things that we see and are like that needs to change but I think anybody looking at these last 2 videos from Elite and saying it doesn't look good is just fooling themselves. As far as gameplay and dribbling and spacing and interaction the game is looking fun. I haven't seen better dribbling skills in a game and honestly it represents the NBA right now guards like Deron William, CP3, Derrick Rose have tremendous dribbling skills so not to be rude but the guy that suggest more fundamental concept of dripple and post a bulls pacer old video is just out dated the nba is faster and more skilled now imo......

Lastly I'll say that saying things like the game was to fast come on guys we all knwo that both 2k and Elite have sliders to put the game speed at your pleasure so why make a video negative when you know that if you get the game you can control the speed of the game. Just seem like some people are being objective and giving credit where credit is do and stating there true opinion wall others are just looking for an opportunity to bash the game
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Re: NBA Elite 11 Gameplay Video (Operation Sports)

Postby Andrew on Mon Sep 06, 2010 12:03 pm

wabenne wrote:Lastly I'll say that saying things like the game was to fast come on guys we all knwo that both 2k and Elite have sliders to put the game speed at your pleasure so why make a video negative when you know that if you get the game you can control the speed of the game. Just seem like some people are being objective and giving credit where credit is do and stating there true opinion wall others are just looking for an opportunity to bash the game


Agreed, though I think NBA 2K11's got a good idea with the different gamestyle autosetting options. I'd like to see something similar in NBA Elite.
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Re: NBA Elite 11 Gameplay Video (Operation Sports)

Postby [Q] on Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:09 pm

very nice. I like what I see. it has very many elements from Live 10 that I recognize. I played Live 10 with this camera angle, so there are a lot of similarities. For those of you that don't know, after subpar Lives 07-09, Live 10 was a very big step in the right direction. What I love about the game is that for someone who knows a lot about basketball, you can run real plays, wait for the play to develop, and work some mismatches. It's not perfect... online, you go through stretches that are very videogame like but it's impossible ot make a game that doesn't do that. It does get away from the recent years of basketball videogames where you try to play 1 on 1 basketball and try to spin/turbo your way past defenders. that being said, Live er... Elite seems to build on a very solid foundation from last year.

the new real-time physics is a very nice addition as my roommate and i would play online and always "try to get the guy in an animation" to stop him on defense :lol:

well, i hope they do away with the dynamic season which i never used and bring back Live run, which i really enjoyed the few times i was able to get games going.
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Re: NBA Elite 11 Gameplay Video (Operation Sports)

Postby Andrew on Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:19 pm

They're bringing back Dynamic Season, but Live Run/OTP is expected to be there in some form, plus they'll have Become Legendary as the single player career mode and Dynasty Mode is supposed to have received some attention this year too.
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