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Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby Andrew on Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:36 am

Post any bug reports and things you'd like to see addressed in a patch here. Please note that things like the addition of in-game saves or the full All-Star Weekend Mode are not feasible to be patched in.

Issues to fix

  • Simulated stats in Dynasty Mode. Star players and other starters don't play enough minutes and several stars are not producing stats that are close to being realistic (eg Dwight Howard averaging 8 points and 9 rebounds per game). Results similar to the ones found in NBA Live 09 would be satisfactory and an improvement on the current stats in NBA Live 10.

  • No player injuries during gameplay; hence, no injuries in Dynasty Mode other than the ones that occur during simulation.

  • Players who have fouled out are still playable.

  • Several players have incorrect salaries, eg Josh Smith and Andre Iguodala have salaries of $1.x million instead of $12 million etc.

  • Selecting the "Starting 5" option when making substitutions does not have any effect; the current/pending lineup remains intact.

  • Controller buttons cause the game to advance when trying to make substitutions during replays, cutscenes and highlights, not allowing the user to actually complete the substitution.

  • Some players who should not be dunking (eg Chris Duhon, J.J. Redick) are throwing down big two-handed dunks.

  • CPU team does not call enough timeouts.

  • User controlled players lose the ball a little too easily when trying to penetrate compared to CPU players.

  • Still some issues with goaltending

  • Shooter's Mentality rating gives too big a boost to a player's overall rating.

  • Weird lighting issues with certain player hairstyles (eg Robin Lopez, Zaza Pachulia; see screenshot)

  • Lighting in The Hangar/The Academy makes players' skin tones appear too bright.

  • Some players are invisible during training or gameplay; mostly in training camp drills.

  • Kevin McHale is still the Timberwolves' coach.

  • Reported issue of being unable to inbound the ball after the CPU opponent scores, calling timeout fixed the error. (Occurred in Dynamic Season game)

  • Reported issue of the ball vanishing and the user being unable to switch players, call timeout or do anything else, clock simply ran out. (Occurred in Dynamic Season game)

  • Overtime bugs: sometimes overtime is triggered even when the score at the end of the fourth quarter is not tied, or alternatively overtime isn't triggered when the score is tied at the end of the fourth.


Issues caused by the first update

  • Random freezing/lock-ups. I didn't get any lock-ups with the game out of the box but I've run into that problem on occasion following the update. It's definitely not a console issues as I'm not having problems with any other game.

  • Replays seem to be glitched. The game will cut to a replay but everyone will just be frozen in place. This happened on every single replay that was triggered during Dynamic Season play and for most of the replays triggered in Play Now, though a couple did work properly. As a result, the end of quarter highlight reels are usually missing and there's only one or two top replays available to view after the game.

  • The out-of-bounds and backcourt glitches from NBA Live 09 appear to be back. Whereas there were only a few instances of players stepping on the sidelines by default in NBA Live 10, the CPU once again gets away with taking several steps out of bounds when driving baseline or stepping back across halfcourt. Out of bounds calls are definitely on, but sometimes the rule is just ignored for both the user and CPU with players catching the ball out of bounds in the corner without a violation.

  • Enabling rim stuffs was great, but they seem to happen too randomly and on wide open attempts.

  • The fix that allows the CPU to "improvise" offensively (the AI stagnation fixes) is buggy as it often results in the CPU not bothering to set up a play and putting up a rushed shot after one pass in the halfcourt, barely using any shotclock and often putting up a silly fadeaway from way behind the three point line or having a big man attempt a shot outside his range rather than continuing to run a play. It really needs to be toned down, replaced or removed as the previous issue of the play sometimes breaking down and the point guard overdribbling was preferable.

  • Could ultimately be a slider issue, but it seems there's too many interceptions and strips on players driving to the basket, as well as blocks inside. The most frustrating aspect of the blocks issue is that the CPU can get to the hoop very easily and it's difficult to block the shot or even put a body on the shooter, whereas the CPU has little trouble swatting away shots or bumping the user around the hoop.

  • Could have just been a lag issue, but in a couple of online games against Pat I felt like I wasn't in control of my players, especially on some drive attempts where I was moving towards the basket but for some reason, my players were stopping and attempting hooks and fadeaways rather than continuing on to the basket for a dunk or layup.

  • Foul calls are still a bit inconsistent with the CPU getting away with too much contact compared to the user on shooting fouls.

  • Could be just me, but directional passing seems less effective following the update.

  • Alley-oop logic seems a bit off as players will often lob the ball backwards to a player at the three point line when a teammate is standing in perfect position near the hoop. Players seem to miss easy lobs as well, either the pass itself or coming up with a rim stuff or fumbling a layup attempt despite being in good position. Obviously that should happen sometimes, but it seems to happen too frequently and in situations where the players involved should be able to make the finish.

  • Layup percentages aren't too bad but there's still a tendency to miss easy ones that really should go in.


Things to add

  • Ability to view player measurements in the imperial system (feet, inches, pounds) instead of displaying them in metric in PAL versions of the game.

  • Ability to use the normal re-order roster menu in Dynasty Mode.

  • Ability to customise controls.

  • Ability to scrimmage with players in The Hangar (to practice plays).
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby Hotwater10 on Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:20 am

Wow, Nice
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby JaoSming on Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:32 am

Andrew wrote:
  • Ability to customise controls.




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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby Andrew on Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:33 am

I know, but I thought I'd throw it in there all the same.
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby Hotwater10 on Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:36 am

So there is a chance EA will make a patch with much of this stuff?
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby Andrew on Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:38 am

There's a patch coming out and as I understand it one of the things it will be adding is a backdown control. As to the rest of it, I can't sau; only Marcus or one of the other producers could answer that.
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby Ezio Auditore on Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:41 am

Andrew wrote:eg Dwight Howard averaging 8 points and 9 rebounds per game


Andrew, are you serious?
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby CHITOWN BULLZ!!! on Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:46 am

i dnt kno if dis is a bug or not but from the 500 shoes they have some players only have a selection a generic brand shoes, nothin big just somethin i notice.. :roll:
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby Andrew on Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:47 am

thierryhenry50 wrote:
Andrew wrote:eg Dwight Howard averaging 8 points and 9 rebounds per game


Andrew, are you serious?


Unfortunately, yes.
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby cam on Wed Oct 07, 2009 12:43 pm

I'm having this problem (PS3 version) where everyone who has hair that stick out of their head is not interacting properly with the lighting, making it appear slightly transparent and odd looking like this:

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It looked a whole lot worse on my TV also. In this screen you can see it obviously looks horrible on Zaza Pachulia, but on my TV, you could also clearly see Nash and Lopez with the shonky hair, can't notice it so much on this screenshot.

It happens to any player that has Hair geometry. To name a few:
Lopez, Nash, Pachulia, Amundson, Noah, Bogut.

Pachulia and Bogut probably look the worst because their hair covers their face, making their face look stupid.

Is anyone else experiencing the same problem? It's in all facets of the game, in game, the hangar, even if you zoom up close to them in edit player.

Are players using the 360 experiencing this also?

Could a developer please clarify for me that this is a mistake and if it would be able to be patched, because it severely affects my enjoyment of using affected players in the game. Thanks.
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby ThaLiveKing on Wed Oct 07, 2009 1:55 pm

Add some interior defense, the computer shouldn't allow other CPU opponents to just walk in the key uncontested. It is frustrating

Allow the substitution overlay to stay, and not disappear when the player inbounds the ball

And there was already an update for this game, anyone know what was in it? The game did play a bit smoother after
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby juggernaut on Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:44 pm

User controlled players lose the ball a little too easily when trying to penetrate compared to CPU players.


I have noticed this too. is there a slider that can reduce this tendency. coz not only does it give you too many turnovers it also ruins spectacular plays, forced dunks etc. its kinda frustrating. i seldomly dunk now.

Also I was looking for the tutorial/practice sessions(ala Nba Live 09) , i believe there isn't one. I was only able to play Live 09 as a rental on PS3 before and have done little training/practice through their academy and that was a long time ago, then I went back to playing Live 08 on PC, so my orientation with the "how-to"s have changed. so i have no idea how to do certain stuff. Plus it would be helpful since there are several new features for the game.
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby fjccommish on Wed Oct 07, 2009 7:27 pm

"User controlled players lose the ball a little too easily when trying to penetrate compared to CPU players."

Please please please don't make it easier for user controlled players to get into the lane to score. User controlled players must lose the ball more easily because they exploit the paint more aggressively.
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby Andrew on Wed Oct 07, 2009 9:38 pm

It shouldn't be easy, but there's just a bit too much stripping going on when you try to drive...at least compared to what you can do to the CPU at the other end.
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby Loyal2Live on Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:43 pm

1.) The PG still seems dominant, when playing the CPU

2.) Add some where to practice plays outside of dynasty mode, not sure if this can be patched, but damn....over 300 new plays but how do you do them, variations, etc.

Overall, NBA Live 10.....scale of 1 to 10....15. :bowdown:
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby Loyal2Live on Wed Oct 07, 2009 10:52 pm

I forgot....

3.) add more animations for celebrating after the player scores....and even more hyped up celebrations at big moments in the game. Every player doesn't bounce and hop back to the other end of the floor. Maybe somemore signature celebrations
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby Loyal2Live on Wed Oct 07, 2009 11:02 pm

Damn I haven't had my coffee yet......

Last thing.....But THE most important

4.) When creating a player, the Shooter's Mentality has a tremendous affect on the overall rating. WTF? I create a guy set the ratings how I want them, nothing extreme like everything 99,....I put his shooter's mentality to a 5....yes I repeat 5.....and the guys rating is a 99. I go back edit the same guy....change his shooter mentality to a 3...yes 3.....the guy's rating is now a 85. Shooter Mentality is the only thing I changed. That's a 13 point overall rating difference for a 2 point rating on shooter's mentality.

WTF is that??????? I have already spoken to my group of LIVE buddies...and its the same thing on at least 6 different copies of the game. This is unacceptable.

By the way....I know nobody else has posted this yet. I woulnd't mind receiving some credit for being the first to spot it, once everybody else sees the problem :lol:
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby shadowgrin on Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:26 am

The EDIT button. Learn how to use it instead of triple posting.
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby JaoSming on Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:34 am

shadowgrin wrote:The EDIT button. Learn how to use it instead of triple posting.


beat me to it....

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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby Harris10 on Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:28 am

where is the allstar weekend?
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Postby JaoSming on Thu Oct 08, 2009 5:55 am

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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby Phreezy P on Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:06 am

^Whaaa?! (N) But there are still all star games, dunk contests and shooting contests right?
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby JaoSming on Thu Oct 08, 2009 6:12 am

no, just the all star game, which is in the actual Cowboys Stadium, and the rookie game. No more dunk contest or 3pt contest
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby tracy1mcgrady4life on Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:56 am

JaoSming,why's the "Shooter's Mentality" rating are too low (e.g ray allen's like 9)???
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby JaoSming on Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:11 am

no idea at all, that would be something to ask one of the EA devs
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby Pdub on Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:30 am

Mark Madsen is invisible. I'm serious. I played the fast break drill and selected him as a defender and he was nowhere to be seen, except when my player ran into an invisible barrier or got blocked by nothing but air. I installed the game to the hard drive and added a CAP to the Clippers, just in case one of those things caused that effect.
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby J@3 on Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:35 am

Mark Madsen is invisible.


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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby Andrew on Thu Oct 08, 2009 7:43 pm

List has been updated.
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby shadowgrin on Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:52 pm

Pdub wrote:Mark Madsen is invisible. I'm serious. I played the fast break drill and selected him as a defender and he was nowhere to be seen, except when my player ran into an invisible barrier or got blocked by nothing but air.

When the Live dev team said they where going to improve defense this year, I didn't know they were that fucking serious about it. :shock:
It'll take x-ray vision to beat Madsen's amazing D.

Try looking harder Pdub, remember "It's in the game!" :lol:
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby HyP82 on Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:54 am

Any release date for the patch?

Edit: Sorry, I didn't read the other threads, I found the answer.
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby airshalom on Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:58 am

More bugs ...

The coach of the Timberwolves is still Kevin McHale in the game no Kurt Rambis at all ...

juggernaut : I had the same problem while playing academy with portland I played the "fastbreak exercise" and I pick Nicolas Batum ... what a surprise HE WAS INVISIBLE !!!

I m gonna play some hours later and post another bugs if I find some !!

NBA Live 10 still ROCKS !!!
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby qwomack74 on Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:04 am

I HAVE A HUGE GRIPE !!!!!!!!!!!!

Make the Addis Live Run just a simple pick up game option. Meaning instead of TRYING to recruit 5 people (which I am doing in the online thread *cough* shameful plug and thread redirect *cough*) make it where you go into a lobby and just play a game with 5 random people. That way you can not only enjoy this part of the game, but also network with people and maybe create a team to run with. Please fix this, it could make the replay value of this game SKYROCKET !!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby DonHarmider on Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:37 am

Hello everyone.This is the first time in 7 years i bought nba live.But unfortunately it sounds like the same problems that caused me to abandon this game are still there.The realistic stats issue is simply inexcusable.The developers cant simulate a few times and compare to real life stats?unbelievable.whats wrong with them?it is the most important part of the franchise mode.it cant be that difficult.modders seam to be making way better games than ea.it s note vgen a contest.

and last,i wanted to ask if it is possible to mod this game for ps 3,make changes to roster,gameplay,create players and upload them so others can download the content?like in pc versions,which unfortunately are not available.

can you for example create fiba teams and players for them?please contact me if it is possible or give me a link or hint.thank you all in advance.

hope the game is worth my money or it will be the absolutely last time i buy anything from ea and will have to start a anti ea campaign war and global boycott.

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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby Andrew on Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:31 am

List has been updated again.

DonHarmider wrote:and last,i wanted to ask if it is possible to mod this game for ps 3,make changes to roster,gameplay,create players and upload them so others can download the content?like in pc versions,which unfortunately are not available.


Not as far as I'm aware.
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby Hotwater10 on Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:22 am

As most of you know, I get my copy and Elite 360 tomorrow. Any whos. After reading this thread I dont even wanna try it! PG still dominates, Graphic Glitches, and Shooters Mantaility. Do all copies have all these problems?
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby Pdub on Fri Oct 09, 2009 2:20 pm

I haven't seen any point guard domination.
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby Andrew on Fri Oct 09, 2009 3:11 pm

Me neither. A couple of times it's kind of felt like it, but the stats at the end of the game don't back it up. Defending the paint is a bit of a problem and if you leave a wide open lane to the hoop, point guards will try and take advantage of that. But I wouldn't say point guard domination is an issue this year.
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby ThaLiveKing on Sat Oct 10, 2009 11:38 am

in my series, the first game LEbron didn't do much and almost had a triple double on me, the next 4 games, he completely torched me, if I was playing 12 minute quarters he would have averaged a triple double
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby havasufalls on Sun Oct 11, 2009 3:57 am

Haven't seen any one report this as a problem so maybe its just my copy but as the game progresses the automatic replays stop working and i just see a screen shot. And its not a screen shot of the current play. And once this happens i cant view any replays even manually at the end of the game. The top plays if i try to replay them or save them or anything it wont show any of the plays. I can use the trigger to advance through the play but it has no affect on the replay. The players just stand there. Has anyone else had this problem? I hope i'm explaining it right...
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby Pdub on Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:07 am

You do have an xbox hard drive right? NBA Live 10 requires a hard drive to hold the replays.
Do you still have the NBA Live 10 demo installed? If you do, try deleting it.

When I view a manual replay, it starts at the end of the play and I have to rewind it. Also, it takes about 3 seconds after the screen shows up before I can do anything.
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby havasufalls on Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:50 am

yes i have a 20gb harddrive that i havent even used half of it yet. I still have the demo installed. When i first got it wasnt doing this. me and my friend would play just fine. i was able to save a replay (i hit a gamewinner with dirk at the buzzer). It was nice to see it playing in the hanger too. I thought to myself i'm gonna save more replays but since then its been doing this. I'm playin my dynasty now and it sometimes shows the replays or like the other things like a player doing good or hot 3 point shooting and its like sometimes it shows the play other times it just freezes and goes to the next play or back to the game. It seems when I don't try and advance past the automatic replay it works a little better. I'll see at the end of the game if i can review any replays.

Edit: Naw it didnt let me view any of the replays. it just showed the final shot of the game. no matter which replay went to all i saw was a screen shot of the game after it ended. I'm playing 10min quarters hopefully its just not to many replays or something.
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby toyotascionxd on Sun Oct 11, 2009 9:51 am

Please bring back the good old days wherein there are no cpu initiated trades during season mode.
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby tracy1mcgrady4life on Mon Oct 12, 2009 9:43 pm

J NILSON!! the guy can't miss from behind the 3pt line.There is a glitch in his shooting style(the same problem was in hedo's shooting style in live 09,he can't miss!!that's why they replaced it).it's not about the defender infront of him,it's about his fast unmissing shot aka faster than ray allen's.

There is another problem called Amare Stoudamire aka Ben Wallace 2003.his D is way WAY!! overrated in defence!!he can defend every single player in the game from kobe to yao.that's UNREAL :shock: !!

and they should decrease the interception/steal frequency,cause it's too high!!
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby Andrew on Mon Oct 12, 2009 10:46 pm

tracy1mcgrady4life wrote:and they should decrease the interception/steal frequency,cause it's too high!!


No need to patch that, there's a gameplay setting for it.
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby havasufalls on Tue Oct 13, 2009 2:27 am

I believe I figured out my problem. I took my game and hd to my sister/bf apt. and I didn't have any more replay problems but I also wasn't online so I'm gonna check once I get home if playing while not connected online will help if not time to use my best buy product replacement plan.
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby ThaLiveKing on Tue Oct 13, 2009 10:28 am

Hotwater10 wrote:As most of you know, I get my copy and Elite 360 tomorrow. Any whos. After reading this thread I dont even wanna try it! PG still dominates, Graphic Glitches, and Shooters Mantaility. Do all copies have all these problems?


Man this game plays tight. PG domination is not really, only depending on who your playing and matchups



To some glitches:

*The computer grabs like 3 offensive rebounds in some sequences, leading them to have like 19 offensive rebounds. I played chicago and they had 19 offensive rebounds and 60 boards total to my 40. I think that's a major problem. And I have the offensive rebound sliders all the way down for the CPU.

*There's no stats and how many fouls each player has that pops up in the game, it's not really a glitch, but this forces me to listen to Steve Kerr because when I played with Miami, with no commentary, Wade was gone and I realized he fouled out. Live 09 had constant info popping up on the screen, I dont know why they took it out the broadcast.

*Computer interceptions are out of hand lol, It's like this game was made for the CPU to dominate. I've won a few games but when I pick teams like the Pacers and Golden State, why do I have to run plays for efficient offense.

*There was a glitch when I was the Celtics Vs the Raptors, saying that a YOUNG Kevin Garnet Goes against a VETERAN Chris Bosh lol. should be the other way around.

*This game really needs a post up button and a box out button. And over the back fouls.

*add some new blocking animations for better shot contesting

*Fix some of those Hustle plays lol

Most of my "requests" are small nitpicks but little things make the overall game play a lot better.
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby Pdub on Tue Oct 13, 2009 12:47 pm

Looks like you need to learn how to rebound. Once you get the positioning and learn to box out, the rebounds are yours. Just jumping after a brick won't get you any rebounds.

You need to position yourself in front of a defender before the ball gets to the rim. If you are close enough to them you can hold the Y button to box out, but it can happen automatically, too. In case it happens automatically, hold the Y button. Just keep holding the Y button and your player will jump for the rebound. You can also let go of the Y button to jump for the rebound manually.

I completely agree on the blocking animations. They are really slow and we can only anticipate blocks on those long collision animations. Most of the blocks happen during a layup where an off hand mysteriously knocks the ball loose.
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby ThaLiveKing on Wed Oct 14, 2009 2:26 pm

The game flows so fast sometimes, there's not enough time. Player controlled CPU Teammates don't even hustle like the CPU on the other teams. I'm always getting out hustled. I guess, Live is back to the old, gotta do everything yourself, cause the computer doesn't really give you any help.

Help defense only comes on the double team and not on the drives, and sometimes players back away from the player attacking the rim
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby Andrew on Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:48 pm

How often do you use Defensive Assist? I'm not sure if it's just a placebo effect but it seems to help across the board, not just in keeping with your man on D.
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Re: Official Bug Report & Patch Request Thread

Postby marshallavfc on Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:13 am

In Create a player when you select black hair it looks brown not black.
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